Morning,
I don’t normally do this but my friend and client, George Bravante of Bravante Farm Capital, is hosting a live investor call with an update on four ranches I’ve worked on and invested in alongside him.
The call will be tomorrow, Wednesday, June 18, at noon Pacific and you are invited to join us.
One topic that may interest you: the impact of deportations on California farmland.
Register for the call here.
George will take questions at the end - feel free to reply with any you’d like me to pass along.
About George:
George has spent the last two decades building a vertically integrated farming business in the Central Valley of California, acquiring over $200MM in agricultural assets across citrus, grapes, stone fruit, and pistachios. Before that, he led multibillion-dollar real estate portfolios at Colony Advisors and American Real Estate Group, and currently serves on the boards of Sabre Corp and KBS Growth & Income REIT.
It’ll be a timely and insightful call. Hope you can make it.
Best,
Adam
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[Podcast] Paul Daneshrad, Founder & CEO, Starpoint Properties
The Looming Crisis Few Want to Confront
My podcast guest today, Paul Daneshrad, CEO of StarPoint Properties and author of Money and Morons, is sounding the alarm: the United States is barreling toward a sovereign debt reckoning – and real estate professionals are not nearly prepared.
Citing economists Reinhart and Rogoff, along with voices as diverse as Jamie Dimon, Jerome Powell, and Ray Dalio, Daneshrad warns that the U.S. has not only crossed the 100% debt-to-GDP threshold, widely viewed as a critical danger zone, but has kept accelerating.
"We're at 120 to 140% on-balance-sheet," he notes. "If you include off-balance-sheet liabilities, we're at 300%."
While the exact timing of the crisis is unknowable, Daneshrad argues that its inevitability is not. “It’s not a question of if – it’s when.”
Politics, Populism, and Normalcy Bias
Daneshrad is quick to dismiss the conventional partisan narrative. The deficit is no longer a left-right issue, it’s a bipartisan affliction. Both political parties, he argues, are fueling structural imbalances. Worse, the electorate, while voicing concern, refuses to vote for hard choices.
This disconnect is the heart of his book’s provocative title: Money and Morons. “86% of Americans say they’re worried about the debt,” he says. “But they won’t vote for politicians willing to solve it, because that solution involves pain.”The result is what psychologists call “normalcy bias” – an instinct to ignore looming threats and retreat into the comfort of the familiar.
Fixed-Rate Fortresses: Real Estate’s First Line of Defense
If the debt crisis triggers hyperinflation and a spike in interest rates, as Daneshrad expects, the implications for real estate will be seismic.
His response? Radical preparation.
StarPoint has already begun shifting its portfolio into 20+ year fixed-rate debt and is moving toward 30-year structures. “It’s painful. It’s more expensive. But if the crisis comes in eight years, and you’ve got two years left on a 10-year loan, you’re vulnerable.”
He emphasizes that this is not a fringe view. “Even Powell, whose mandate doesn’t include the deficit, felt compelled to warn the public. That’s how serious it is.”
Deleveraging with Purpose
Debt levels at StarPoint are also coming down – fast. The firm is targeting 40% leverage, down from a peak of 70%. They currently sit at 54%, and the journey continues.The rationale is clear: when interest rates jump from 6% to 15%, the re-pricing of real estate will be brutal. “That’s trillions in lost value,” says Daneshrad. “You have to de-risk now.”
The Forgotten Asset: Cash
Cash, often derided for its lack of yield in boom times, plays a central role in Daneshrad’s playbook. “The Rockefellers, Kennedys, Guggenheims – they had cash when it mattered. They bought at two cents on the dollar.”
Berkshire Hathaway’s record cash holdings reinforce this strategy. “Buffett sees limited opportunity right now and high risk. That should tell you something.”
Daneshrad recommends targeting cash reserves as a percentage of either AUM or annual free cash flow, steadily building them over time. "Public companies get punished for it. Private firms like ours have more flexibility and we’re using it."
Why He’s Not Buying (Yet)
Despite market dislocation, Daneshrad says StarPoint is mostly sitting on the sidelines. Cap rate spreads don’t justify the risk, and few deals offer the deep value he’s targeting.
“We’re looking for rebound plays where sellers are on their third buyer and need certainty of close. That’s where the discounts are. But those opportunities are rare.” Asked whether the mispricing stems from short-term underwriting or optimism bias, he shrugs. “We’ve flooded the system with liquidity. Asset prices are artificially propped up.”
Diversification and the Limits of Real Estate
Daneshrad is not betting the farm on U.S. real estate. He’s pursuing modest geographic diversification abroad and expanding into non-real estate asset classes. “Historically, real estate hedges inflation well but a debt crisis changes everything.”
He’s candid about the difficulty: “We’re not that smart. Timing a crisis is hard. But we can prepare for one.”
The Aging America Conundrum
One of the more nuanced points Daneshrad raises is the intersection of demography and fiscal sustainability. Aging, he agrees, is inevitable. But the care infrastructure it requires is not financially supported. “The trustees for Social Security and Medicare, not politicians, say the funds go bankrupt in under ten years. That’s $90 trillion in off-balance-sheet liabilities.”
Senior housing? “A great idea if the elderly can pay. But with savings rates at historic lows, I’m not optimistic.”
Market Signals That Matter
Daneshrad watches for three early signs of crisis:
- A gradual rise in interest rates – not driven by Fed hikes but by market demands for higher risk premiums.
- Breakdown of the flight-to-safety dynamic – if equities fall but bond yields rise, that’s a red flag.
- The ‘bang moment’ – as coined by Reinhart and Rogoff, when confidence evaporates overnight.
As Hemingway once said about bankruptcy, it happens "gradually, then suddenly."
What He’d Do with $1 Million Today
If handed an extra million in cash, Daneshrad says he’d hold 80% in cash and invest the rest. “Protect the capital. Diversify over multiple asset classes. Liquidity is opportunity.”
Final Word
Paul Daneshrad’s message is sobering but clear: “Protect. Prepare. Don’t pretend.”
He doesn’t claim to predict the future. But if you accept the warnings from the smartest voices in finance and economics, the case for defensive posturing is overwhelming.
And if they’re wrong? You lose a few basis points. But if they’re right you survive the bang.
Best,
Adam
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