This week's Podcast/YouTube show
Guest: Jeffrey Rosenberg, Chairman & CEO, Big V Property Group
From Supermarkets to Open-Air Power Centers
Jeff Rosenberg didn’t enter open-air retail as a cycle-timer. His family built and operated supermarkets and the centers that housed them starting in the 1940s.
After selling the operating company in the late 1980s, the real estate platform evolved into Big V Property Group’s national focus on open-air shopping centers.
That lineage drives Big V’s philosophy: long retailer relationships, deep familiarity with store-level performance, and a willingness to hold through full cycles when the risk-adjusted return warrants it.
Why “Dying” Retail Didn’t Die
For years, retail was viewed as structurally broken. E-commerce growth and Covid shutdowns convinced many lenders and investors that physical shopping was finished. Big V disagreed.Rosenberg argues the mistake was assuming online and in-store retail substitute for each other.
In reality, today’s retailers treat stores as omnichannel infrastructure – part showroom, part warehouse, part last-mile distribution.A store opening in a market can lift online traffic by roughly 30%; closing one can reduce it by a similar amount. In Big V centers, tenants like Target and Best Buy now operate as local logistics hubs as much as traditional shops.
Discount Anchors and Ecosystem Effects
Big V’s portfolio is built around discount power centers anchored by national credit tenants like Target, Ross, TJ Maxx, HomeGoods, Sierra Trading. Target in particular shapes market selection, invests heavily in demographic analysis, and requires infrastructure improvements that benefit the rest of the center.
The result is an anchor-led ecosystem where tenant demand, retailer credit, and long-term trade area strength reinforce one another.
Supply Discipline and Location Quality
Retail’s current strength reflects supply dynamics as much as demand. New development has been minimal for two decades. Open-air centers are 96–97% occupied, and most closures reflect chains pruning weaker sites, not structural retreat.Those relocations sharpen Big V’s bias toward “main and main” locations and durable growth markets.
The team now layers analytics over traditional fieldwork to track not just where demographics are strong today but how retail nodes are shifting. In some cases, that has meant selling centers whose long-term demand picture no longer matched the original thesis.
Capital Stack and Institutional Momentum
Historically, Big V financed acquisitions with senior debt, mezz or pref equity, and high-net-worth capital from either the principals’ own family or from other family offices. Leverage that once reached 75% now sits closer to 60–65%, with mezz or pref filling the gap.As retail’s reputation has improved, lender appetite has grown.
A recent example: Big V rolled eight “iconic” properties, about $1.1 billion, into a single vehicle financed with a $765 million bank loan led by Truist. It’s the largest retail loan that bank has closed and the largest retail debt recapitalization in the country in 2025, suggesting that for strong sponsors with strong assets, balance-sheet capital is available at scale.
Investor Sentiment and Returns
Rosenberg describes his high-net-worth and family-office investors as cautious but engaged. Today’s retail, he argues, offers more consistent yields than sectors such as multifamily or office.Core assets are producing 6–7% cash-on-cash, with total returns driven by NOI growth. A multi-state roll-up fund adds risk diversification across markets. And pass-through depreciation and amortization enhance after-tax returns beyond headline yields.
2026, Cycles, and No Cap-Rate Compression
Rosenberg expects 2026 to bring more liquidity, more demand, and more competition. That also means lower yields on high-quality retail. Big V now underwrites without assuming cap-rate compression; upside must come from rent growth, leasing, and execution, not capital-markets tailwinds.
They also extend their horizon. Each acquisition is evaluated against what the 2030’s interest rate environment might look like, not just a three- to five-year plan. That conservatism underpins a track record Rosenberg states directly: “We have never lost our investors money. Ever.”
Key Takeaways
- Stores are infrastructure. Incorporate the omnichannel role into underwriting.
- Supply discipline supports stability. Under-building plus high occupancy creates a different backdrop from other sectors.
- Anchors drive long-term value. Understand where major discounters are expanding and where they’re not.
- Capital is concentrating in “safe” retail. Expect competition for quality to intensify.
- Do not rely on cap-rate compression. If the deal needs it, the risk/return balance is off.
Open-air retail is no longer an unfashionable corner of the market. For disciplined capital, it offers durable, tax-efficient cash flow if you’re willing to stay conservative, stay local, and think further ahead than the rest of the field.
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